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mommyof2peas
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posted May 26, 2003 03:35 PM      Profile for mommyof2peas   Email mommyof2peas   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have been combing the net for 2 yrs now looking for information that partains to identical twins that had separate everything. Alot of people think this is impossible, but I can tell you this IS possible because this was my situation with my twin girls. If anyone has info reguarding this.....or if you had the same thing........please poste .......I'd love to find out more. The only reading I have found was in reguard to identicals stemming only from shared something. Thank You
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agirlandmonotwinsmama
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posted May 27, 2003 03:00 PM      Profile for agirlandmonotwinsmama        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey there,
I have identical twins that were in same placenta, but different sacs. I've been looking for resources discussing identical twins. I've seen the following available books... discussing twins in general...
1) Raising Twins by Pearlman & Ganon
2) Art of Parenting Twins by Malmstrom & Poland
3) Parent's Guide to Raising Twins by Friedrich & Rowland
4) Double Duty by Tinglof
5) Raising Multiple Birth Children by Laut, Benit, & Laut
6) Dancing Naked in Front of the Fridge by Sipes & Sipes
7) Entwined Lives by Segal
8) Twinship Sourcebook by Twins Magazine

Just wondering if anyone has any reading reccomendations... Any resources about identical twins?? Thx in advance for your time & info!


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1stmomtwins
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posted July 08, 2003 04:35 PM      Profile for 1stmomtwins   Email 1stmomtwins   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
hi im a new member!i have 1.5yr twin girls born with seperate sac and placenta but every doctor and specialist they have seen say thay are idintical and we still have hard time telling them apart somtimes. when they were about a month old we got them mixed up, hope we got it right.
the only info i have found is twin conception studies the earlier the egg splits the farther apart they will grow and have their own sac and/or placenta and also twinning can come thru the father or atleast they think they have proven that thari.i want to know if anyone finds anymore info. i hope to talk with many parents os twins

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Melissa
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posted July 28, 2003 05:11 PM      Profile for Melissa   Email Melissa   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have a 4 yr old son and 4 month old twin boys. My dad's mother was a twin and my mom's mother was pregnant with twin but lost one. My doctor told me that all of that history was too far back in our family to have any gene affect on me. We found out at 14 weeks that I was expecting twins and started to do some research online to see what I could find out. Here are some things:
1. Whether or not you have twins will not have anything to do with the father. It has everything to do with the females egg(s). Either 2 eggs or 1 that splits. BUT men can pass the trait on to their daughters.
2. Identical twins are not a trait that is passed on. Only freternal twins. Obviosly, boy/girl twins are not identical, although many people have asked a friend of mine if hers are!
3. If you have fraternal twins, you have a significantly higher risk of having more sets with each pregnancy. I'm not sure on the percentage but it's higher. And I think the older you get the higher the chance.
I'm not sure about the placenta and seperate sacs. My boys each had their own sacs and their own placenta. My doctor told me that if that was the case, they would not be identical. But the sonographer said that they thought the only thing seperate sacs meant was that they would not be conjoined twins, so I don't know. Lots of people tell my the boys look alike but I'm not sure if they are identical or not. So anyway, that's what I've found out. Hope this helps.

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posted August 22, 2003 06:10 PM      Profile for AliciaE   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have read that the circumstances of whether identical twins share ambionic or chorionic sacs or placentas all depends on WHEN the egg split. The sooner it splits the less they share....

Hope that helps!


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Lissi
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posted September 02, 2003 12:25 AM      Profile for Lissi   Email Lissi   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have 16 month old twin boys who look a whole lot alike, but there are minor differences also. I was told while I was pregnant that they were not identical. Seperate sacks + two placentas makes it an impossibility they said. After they were born the doctor said the placentas fused togerther so he sent them to get tested just in case. The results said they are fraternal. We have never had a DNA test done but I trust the placenta test. I was wondering how you know that your twins are identical. Did you have a DNA test done? What about the placenta test has anyone ever had it be wrong? Let me know.
Lissi

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posted September 02, 2003 02:44 PM      Profile for vsnow   Email vsnow   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi,
This is an interesting topic for me because my girls were adopted oversees at 7 mos. I had them take a blood test when they were 2 yrs. old because I was tired of people asking me if they were identical or not. There DNA came out 99% the same, therefore, I'm told they are identical twins. Have any of you had your twin's DNA checked? vms@snowpublications.com

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posted September 10, 2003 07:14 PM      Profile for jcjnnja   Email jcjnnja   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hello all! I actually have TWO sets of twins - both fraternal (b/g). My children are 9 year old single, 4 1/2 year old twins and 21 month old twins. I have done LOTS of research on the topic. Here is what I have learned:

o There are actually three types of twins: 1) Identical which are 1 egg, 1 sperm - which splits; 2) fraternal which are two eggs, two sperm; and 3) which I can't remember medical term, but are one egg which splits then is fertilized by 2 sperm. These can be very similar to identical or can be opposite sex since the dad determines the sex. They are now saying the Olsen twins are not identical!!

o Twins in the same sac are ALWAYS identical, twins in separate sac can be either type. It depends on how early the split occurs in identicals - if it is early enough - they will have two sacs.

o Identical twins are not supposed to be hereditary, but my friend has 8 sets of identical twins in her family. It makes sense to me that if a woman has the propensity to drop more than one egg, she might also have the propensity to have her eggs split also.

o It is supposed to be passed along ONLY from woman to woman ... since it is the eggs that determine twins, the father has NOTHING to do with it (except for the obvious, he, he)

o When you are over 35 (which I was both times - 37 first time; 39 second) you have a higher chance of twins. The older you are, the more likely you are to drop more than one egg - to "get rid" of your supply before you start entering pari-menopause (which I am in). I was even on the pill when I got preggers with the second set of twins - I thought I was done - guess not!!

o Once you have fraternal twins - without fertility help - you have a 40% chance of doing it again. Once you have done it twice, you have about 80% or higher chance of doing it again (which is why I am fixed - he, he)

Anyway - that is all I can think of now - if anyone wants to chat - please email me!

Hectic Mom of Five!!


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posted September 18, 2003 08:01 AM      Profile for J&J mom2001   Email J&J mom2001   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi I'm mom of a set of boys(24 month). They had each their sac, but one placenta. I think they are identical,but some people say they are not.
Because they have some diffrences.The first born is stronger built and is a little taller and the second born is smaler. I think it's because of the room he had in the womb and from the 32nd week of pregnancy he wasn't supplyed very good anymore, because of the shared placenta.
But most studys say they the second twin will pick up the delays by the 4 th year. So I'm confident. My second one can do already thing that the first one can't.

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posted October 15, 2003 04:53 PM      Profile for Ameo416     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hi! I am new here. I have identical girls who are now 6 months old. They both had their own sacs and their own placentas, so they are considered to be diamniotic/dichorionic. I had them genetically tested a couple of months ago, and they are definitelt identical...99.996% probability. If you haver di/di same sex twins, there is a 4% chance of them being identical. A good site with more info on this is www.twinstuff.com.

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Single mommy to identical girls
Amelie Dyar and Eowyn Rose
Born at 36-3 weeks on 4/16/03.


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navywife
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posted September 22, 2004 02:42 PM      Profile for navywife   Email navywife   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by J&J mom2001:
Hi I'm mom of a set of boys(24 month). They had each their sac, but one placenta. I think they are identical,but some people say they are not.
Because they have some diffrences.The first born is stronger built and is a little taller and the second born is smaler. I think it's because of the room he had in the womb and from the 32nd week of pregnancy he wasn't supplyed very good anymore, because of the shared placenta.
But most studys say they the second twin will pick up the delays by the 4 th year. So I'm confident. My second one can do already thing that the first one can't.


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